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How to Recruit, Retain and Inspire the Next Generation of Aerospace Engineers

Panelists: Moderator Mark Lewis, Science and Technology Policy Institute; Steve Gorrell, Brigham Young University; Mike Hawes, Lockheed Martin Corp.; Carole Hedden, Aviation Week & Space Technology; Yvette Weber, U.S. Air Force/p>

by Ben Iannotta, Editor-in-Chief, Aerospace America

Data shows that the aerospace industry is having trouble keeping young technical talent, and panelists at the 2015 AIAA Propulsion and Energy Forum discussed ways to address that problem.

“It’s a true statement that you are only as good as your people,” said Mark Lewis, director of the Science and Technology Policy Institute, at the start of the “Workforce Development” session.

Carole Hedden, the editorial director at Aviation Week & Space Technology, defined the scope of the problem by listing statistics from the latest Aviation Week workforce study, of which AIAA is a participant. She said that each year, 5.7 percent of the workforce decides to leave aerospace.

“It’s questionable whether that’s actually a healthy rate,” Hedden said.

On top of that, “the vast majority of people choosing to leave are the newbies,” she said, meaning people with less than five years in the industry.

Also, the No. 1 impetus cited for joining the aerospace industry was not an aircraft, satellite or rocket project, but Elon Musk’s Tesla Motors, she added.

One panelist diagnosed that “young people want to be in charge of their destiny,” and she called for a shift in thinking about work-life balance. Today, some employers “subliminally” signal their employees that “time in the office is better and leads to advancement,” said Yvette Weber, the developmental system chief for the U.S. Air Force C-5 fleet. “We have to actively work to change that culture to be more results-oriented,” she said. Some companies are even shifting to unlimited vacation time, she noted, in the belief that this will focus employees on results.

Too often, she said, work-life balance is narrowed to an issue of women and child-rearing. “Work-life balance goes beyond that type of activity.”

The panelists said another key issue is the crushing student-loan burden. Hedden said these loans are not the 3-percent interest versions of previous generations, but loans with 7- to 8-percent interest rates that require large payments.

“This is a big issue,” she said. Unlike companies like Google, Amazon and Apple, companies in the aerospace sector do not typically provide large signing bonuses to wipe out a significant portion of education debt, Hedden added.

In the area of training, some companies have cited shortcomings in new-employee critical thinking and teamwork. Steve Gorrell, an associate professor at Brigham Young University, said he is seeing progress toward addressing that through the unmanned-aircraft initiative for students run by the Aerospace Partners for the Advancement of Collaborative Engineering.

“We focus on multidisciplinary design,” he said. The students break into teams that design and build different parts of a small unmanned aircraft, integrate the components and then fly the plane. “What we’re finding from this [initiative] is that it’s helping to narrow that skills gap between academia and industry that’s been identified,” Gorrell said.

On the topic of retention, the panel suggested that there is no substitute for involving engineers in fascinating, high-stakes work. Lockheed Martin’s Mike Hawes, vice president and Orion program manager with Space Systems, said the company has had no trouble retaining talent to design and build NASA’s multibillion-dollar crew capsules.

“I frankly expected a fairly high rate moving off Orion after our test flight in December. Frankly, we didn’t see a very high transition rate from that, and that’s very helpful to the program,” Hawes said, referring to the space test of an unmanned Orion capsule last year.

That said, Hedden said engineers typically want to move to other roles every 24 to 36 months, according to the workforce study. They don’t mind working on one kind of plane for decades, she said, but they want a change of tasks.

 

 

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Diagnosing the High Costs of Rockets, Satellites and Airplanes

Panelists: Moderator Michael D. Griffin, Schafer Corp.; Frank Culbertson, Orbital ATK; Mike Hawes, Lockheed Martin Corp.; Lee Monson, retired from Boeing Co.

by Ben Iannotta, Editor-in-Chief, Aerospace America

Why are government satellites, rockets and aircraft so darn expensive? The answer can be boiled down to a single word: Fear — fear of test failures; fear of bid protests; fear of losing political support.

That was the dominant message from “Cost and Affordability of Future Systems,” a 2015 AIAA Propulsion and Energy Forum panel.

“The paranoia of making a mistake and losing your job drives people to overdo things,” said former space station astronaut Frank Culbertson, now president of Orbital ATK’s Space Systems Group.

When it comes to rocketry, “we’ll be more successful in operations if we do have a few [test] failures sometimes,” he said. Even when there is a flight failure that destroys cargo or lives, “you’re going to be stronger the next time around, just as we were in the shuttle program, just as we are in Antares, just as SpaceX is doing right now,” Culbertson said, referring to the explosion of an Antares rocket in 2014 and the June disintegration of a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket on its way to orbit.

To illustrate how excessive caution drives up costs, Culbertson told a story about attempting to test a new solid rocket motor.

“It took us 30 days to get clearance from the customer to actually do that test, when if we had just done the test and it failed, we could have had it going again in two weeks,” he said.

Fear also affects costs in subtler ways. Government contracting officers live in fear of successful bid protests, so they “lay out a paper trail of fairness and transparency,” said former NASA Administrator Michael D. Griffin, now chairman and CEO of Schafer Corp. “It’s nice that America chooses to be fair, but it’s extremely expensive to do so.”

That’s not a problem in the commercial world. “Procurement decisions are made for individual items based on what will yield the most value, or the perceptions of the value, in the end product,” Griffin said.

Griffin asked panelist Lee Monson, a retired Boeing Co. executive who once sold airliners in the Middle East, whether airlines have any desire to own the aircraft technologies they rely on. Monson said airlines care about the configuration of seats and also about the “long-term maintainability” of their planes, but they don’t want responsibility for the design and technology.

“Because of the regulatory forces that get imposed upon them, they would just as soon that that stay with the manufacturer,” Monson said.

t’s understandable for the airlines: “So, if NTSB” — the National Transportation Safety Board — “has a problem, they want it to be with Boeing, not them.”

In the government, fear of losing political support for large undertakings has historically led managers to distribute work across as many U.S. states as possible. The issue persists in such areas as missile defense and large Air Force programs, Griffin said.

Mike Hawes, vice president and Orion program manager with Space Systems at Lockheed Martin Corp., said the political motivations for distributing work are sometimes overstated.

“There are a lot states that I buy stuff from that I don’t have a political reason to go buy from that state. So, I rankle at that a little bit,” he said, meaning the notion “that it’s all politically driven.”

In one sense, fear is not necessarily a bad thing. In the commercial world, noted Griffin, market forces are intense. “Almost everyone in the company is co-aligned in their motivations. Executive bonuses, executive salaries, even continued employment is contingent on doing things in a very balanced way,” he said.

In government procurement, “we need something to substitute for market forces,” Griffin said.

 

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